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Who Is Your Lawyer?

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Dare collectors to meet you in court.
Most often they will ask you "who is your lawyer"
(because they were unprepared for your answer!)

eto ang sagot mo:

"why don't you call him instead?"

eto yung list of lawyers in the Philippines:

http://www.chanrobles.com/masterlist1.htm#.UdeDlKyZmSo

Lesson :
Dare their bluff with your own bluff.


Commission At Our Expense

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NEVER DEAL WITH COLLECTORS.
if you still value your hard-earned money.
(unless there are legal basis)

AFRAID OF COLLECTORS?

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Why you should not be afraid of collectors:

Just because you are a defaulter does not mean puede ka nang sigawan at murahin?
aba, payag ka ba nyan? 
sino ba sila?
sila ay COLLECTOR lamang.
taga-collect lang po.
inuutusan lang.
"messenger-collector"
binibigyan ng commission kung may ma-kolekta.
no collection ; no commission.

HINDE SILA BANKO,
hinde ka sa kanila may utang.
they cannot file cases.
they can only FOOL you.

Before you ask further for questions,
please read the link below.
pramis?



http://www.fhm.com.ph/be-a-better-man/mens-stuff/fhm-longform-not-fantastic-20160212-lfrm2

Visits - Nakakatakot Ba Talaga?

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When collectors visit you,
bigyan ka muna ng sulat ( w/ envelope or 1/4 shit of paper lang)
pirmahan mo lang kahit left to right, front and back.
no big deal.
DON'T READ ANYMORE
..to the trashcan, Batman!

Minsan, they will also give you their cellphone.
Kausapin ka daw ni Supervisor.
huh? what for? may sulat na nga eh!
pssst.... this is to intimidate you:
" si atorni ito, ano ba plano mo? etc"
WAG KAUSAPIN.
it's your right.
say NO to strangers,
yan ang turo sa atin, di ba?

gustong pumasok sa bahay?
that's Trespass To Dwelling.
a criminal offense.
robbery na yan.

eskandalo?
sino ba ang kinukulong dyan, aber? 

p.s.
kung may aso,
pakagat mo ke brownie.
walang kulong yan.
pramis.

                                                    NO ANONYMOUS POSTS PLEASE 

P.A.N.I.C.

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Palagi
Ang
Nasa
Isip
Collector!


relax......
otherwise you'll lose your common sense.

all they can do is tell you lies.
so, don't take them seriously.
they won't ; they don't ; they can't!
(try to remember those lines next time)


Explain....Explain... Why You Cannot Pay.

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Whenever collectors ask " ano plano sa utang mo?"
Remember - you are not required to explain!

1. What? Are you sure? Wala naman akong utang sa bank ah. at wala din akong utang sa iyo.
2. If true, I have not even  received any endorsement from the bank that you are authorized to collect per 
    BSP Cir. 702.
3. You said you are authorized? then, what is the referral code?

4. Mag-kano utang ko? P 11,576.25 in three months? can you send me the computation muna? my e-mail is in the document you are holding anyway.

5. We should  really talk about  this issue in court para legal lahat. unlike ngayon, I am not even sure sino kausap ko.




Collector's Newest Technique - Funeral Homes Scam

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Collectors now uses funeral homes to pressure you into paying.
Here's how they do it:
1. they call the unsuspecting funeral home for services.
2. due to  greed , these funeral homes scramble to get to your home
3. and they get scammed!
4. but you get pissed-off!

what to do?
1. get the details - who called thru what number.
2. (the numbers are of course from collectors)
3. file a report to consumeraffairs@bsp.gov.ph
4. don't let this thing pass ; wag sabihin na maliit lang ito na bagay.
5. remember - big impact comes from small individual complaints.


any suggestions?


Diskarte - The Booklet

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Chapter I   Meet Mr. Collector

He is usually a high school graduate who earns his living
on a no-collect ; no-commission basis, employing mainly:
1. Pretense (  lawyer/police/NBI,whatever)
2. Harassment
3. Blackmail
4. Extortion
5. Swindling 
which are all CRIMINAL OFFENSES just in case you don't know yet

Chapter II   Ways of Contacting You 

1. Demand letters
   1.a. Receive them. No big deal. You can even sign it front and back or left to right.
   1.b  Do not open. There are no good news there anyway, only lies. tapon

2.Text Messages
   Para iwas stress, simply press 'delete'

3.Calls
   3.a)  Take the call. It can't kill you anyway.
   3.b)  Do not argue, plead or explain, so that the call will not take long.
   3.c)  "According to my lawyer, sa court na lang daw natin pag-usapan ito"
   3.d)  Stick to that line. simplify your answers to "yes" or "no"
   3.e)  Remember this sound - "click"
   3.f)   Huwag ma-pikon. " Tama ka" is standard reply para SIYA ang ma-pikon.

Chapter III  The Lies Collectors Tell

The first lie is his name.
That is not the collector's real name.
So, why would you believe anything he says afterwards?


1.Court Case
    They won't ; they don't ; they can't
    Why would they'd be called "collectors" in the first place!

2.Imprisonment
   Failure to pay means you promised, but did not fulfill it.
   Its found under "Obligations and Contracts" of the Civil Code,
   not in the Revised Penal Code, hence, not a criminal act.
   This also applies to debts abroad like UEA.

3.Amnesty and Promos
   Show me first the documents that he is legally allowed by the bank to do so
   before I believe him.

4.Travel Ban
   You are not a criminal, what gives?

5.Getting Your Properties/Assets/Money/Salary
   May court decision na ba?
   Meron ka bang condo/Ferrari/Time deposits?
   Plain robbery

6.Publishing Your Face
  Have you ever seen one in a newspaper?

7.Warrants of Arrest/ BP 22/ RA 8484/ PNP/NBI/CIDG/INTERPOL
    These words imply "imprisonment" ; now go back and read again if you missed anything.

Chapter IV  Threats and Blackmails - Visits

1. Office
2. Home
3. Barangay

What for, Eskadalo?
ano ba usually ginagawa ng isang tao pag may mag-eskadalo sa kanya?
yun din ang gawin mo!
Tip :
A list of criminal offenses you can file against collectors is found here:
http://failuretopaycreditcard.blogspot.com/2010/11/matapang-na-collector.html


Chapter V  How To Pay

1. Go to the bank personally
2. Ask for an updated Statement of Account
3. Review and request for waiver or reduction of charges
4. If there is an agreement, document it ; the start paying
    If there is no agreement ( referred only to collectors),
   wait  for the court, if ever it will come.
 5.The process will simply repeat again from steps 1 - 4

Chapter VI  Worst Case Scenario

If the bank is serious in collecting from you,
matagal ka na dapat pina-tawag sa court.

Even if the bank files a thousand cases,
if you have no condo, ferrari or time deposit,
THE END


Chapter VII  The Five Golden Rules

1. If you cannot pay, don't
2. Prioritize you need, not their greed
3. Disregard, delete, dedma.
4. Don't let them control your life, it's your life anyway
5.  Dare their bluffs ; just for laughs?
     (I forgot the last one. honest. ha..ha..ha..)

Chapter VIII  Lessons Learned

1. Debt is a humbling, not a humiliating experience.
2. Forget the debt, not the lessons.
Then reflect on  this :
Parable Of The Ten Lepers    

Postface
Someone asked me:
"You told me they won't sue me but they did!"
I answered back:
" I cannot guarantee everything 100% ;  Remember,  I am not God!"

Banker®


the booklet is available only during Diskarte EBs;
the e-book however can be downloaded. inquire
how at admin/Diskarte Forum.



   
  

MIDYEAR EB

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Date : July 30,2016
Time : 2:00 p.m.
Place : 5/f Conference Room


Go Hotel Cybergate Plaza
Edsa corner Pioneer St.
Mandaluyong, Metro Manila, Philippines
Fee : P 500.00/pax
  1. please pay in advance
  2. thru BDO/Money Services
  3. ask details to 0927 86 87 0 88

 

PRIDE

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Rule No. 1 - If you cannot pay, don't.

Collectors usually uses our pride to make you pay their commission.
"Ginamit mo naman yan!"
but are you really paying Juan and not Pedro?
accept the fact that you can no longer pay,
and then, move on!

Note:

for the Mid-year EB issues, please press "older post below"

Anyare?

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Collectors will normally ask you this question.
Because they care?
Of course not! It's simply to put you on defensive stance.
"Control the conversation" is a collector's technique.


Whatever your reason might be is of no interest to them.
their only concern is to squeeze earn money from you.

You are under no obligation to answer their queries.
Don't talk to strangers. Don't assume.

 Here's a little carrot and stick approach they employ for the clueless ones:

" P 1,000,000.00 po ang outstanding balance ninyo;
Pero dahil qualified ka sa Amnesty, pay only P 10,000.00!"
If not, we will file a case...visit you....threats....threats....threats.


Your best response would be:
"According to my lawyer, let's talk it out in court"
then don't argue anymore with people not of your IQ level.
otherwise you'll be asking yourself later:
"anyare?"




Your Physical and Financial Health Compared

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I  Healthy: ( Status : current)
You have no illness ; you are updated in debt repayment

II. Health deteriorates: ( Status : substandard)
You may suffer some fever, coughing or other symptoms;
Your debt repayment is delayed.

III. Bed Ridden ( Status : Doubtful)
You have stage IV whatever ; Your debt is already past due

IV. Gone ( Status : Loss)
You have joined your creator or tormentor;
Your debt is written-off


When you are not feeling well, you take medicines and go to the doctor.
similarly, when you can no longer afford to pay, you ask for RESTRUCTURING.

The doctor/account officer will try to nurture you back to your good health.
But as you can see, banks will merely refer you to their collectors.
have you ever wondered why? 
simple: they are no longer interested in collecting from you.

Collectors then will  feast on your "remains" like vultures
and offer you such outrageous, fictitious  and scandalous "amnesty programs".

It's like a pauper who dies and his organs are sold for monetary gains.
outrageous and scandalous, but true.


For Our OFW Kabayan

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OFWs are a favorite of Bilkish collectors.
One thing to remember :

wala paki-alam ang Pinas sa utang mo abroad.
or any other country sa utang mo with another country.
pure lies. pure commissions.

Are You A Lawyer?

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Every time we have a problem,
we immediately look to a lawyer for solution.

Wrong.
Debt, or more specifically debt repayment, is a FINANCE problem.
so, why go to a lawyer?
He can cite all the laws in the world, but if you have no money to pay your debt,
it won't solve your problem.

So, next time you ask me about your CC debt,
don't ask me  " Are you a lawyer? "
No, I'm not.
I am a Banker!

Publishing Your Face

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bag lady avatar
Collector's diskarte: PJ Publication

Threats to publish your name, picture and your face in the newspaper
is silly.

If they do that, WALA ka ng mabasa sa newspaper kundi pur0
pangalan ng 500,000 CC defaulters! Incredible? its like
reading who passed the board exam, complete with your face
and picture.

BTW,ang ba ang pagka-iba ng face and picture?
(It's also libel - a criminal case - no matter the reason)

updates:

 http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/top-stories/39754-journal-group-scammers-hunted-by-police

Field Visit

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"Field visits" are field trips!
But for collectors, it means mag-dala lang sila ng demand letters
which you can simply receive and throw away.
Mag-inspect ng gamit?
ano sila, Bureau of Fire?
or Akyat Bahay?
lol!



REMINDERS LANG PO:

if you can type your query, surely you can type a username.
please avoid posting as "anonymous" and in old blog articles.

Anonymous

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anonymous posted a query - " will I be imprisoned for my unpaid card debts?"
anonymous posted a query - " how do I stop CAs from calling me?"
anonymous posted a query - " I am afraid they will visit our office."


HOW will be answer that if all queries are all "anonymous"?
surely, if you can type a query, you can also type a username?

Pinapa-hiya Ka Ni Kolektor?

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Revised Penal Code

Article 287. Light coercions. – Any person who, by means of violence, shall seize anything belonging to his debtor for the purpose of applying the same to the payment of the debt, shall suffer the penalty of arresto mayor in its minimum period and a fine equivalent to the value of the thing, but in no case less than 75 pesos.
Any other coercion or unjust vexation shall be punished by arresto menor or a fine ranging from 5 to 200 pesos, or both.
FURTHER........
BSP Circular 702  
Ask the  "Referral Code" to know if the collector is authorized. If he cannot show you one, he is liable for the following:
Art. 315. Swindling (estafa). — Any person who shall defraud another by any of the means mentioned hereinbelow shall be punished by: imprisonment
2. By means of any of the following false pretenses or fraudulent acts executed prior to or simultaneously with the commission of the fraud: 

(a) By using fictitious name, or falsely pretending to possess power, influence, qualifications, property, credit, agency, business or imaginary transactions, or by means of other similar deceits. 

PRESIDENTIAL DECREE No. 90 January 6, 1973

DECLARING UNLAWFUL RUMOR-MONGERING AND SPREADING FALSE INFORMATION

Breaking News

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You can see on your right side screen how many have committed to attend.

p.s.

don't post your queries here. 


Fire In The Hole

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"Fire in the hole" is a warning that an explosive detonation in a confined space is imminent. It originated with miners, who needed to warn their fellows that a charge had been set.

Let this also be a warning.
some people, who are actually collectors, 
are posting their "own experiences" here kuno,
which are all lies to instill fear among real defaulters!

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